What would people like to see from KP?

mmmh....
a wishlist...

Venarive

Chelemby City

Cities of Ledenheim

Something more from Harn

Truly, I'm excited to see Kelestia Productions developing new material, but Harn has been well-covered and is being further expanded upon by the "other" company. IMHO, for KP to expend effort in that direction would be counter-productive; the market is limited enough as it is. The way things are now, CG is the source for Harn material (whether we like it or not) and KP is well-positioned to become THE source for Lythian material. In fact, I somewhat disagree with the recent publication of the Harn map. (I did buy both the .pdf and the printed versions, however - I support my preferred gaming publishers.)

All that said, I think that KP's current direction is exciting and open-ended. Chelemby has been covered and you're edging into Harbaal now. Those areas have never been covered in detail before. A logical further expansion might be Hurisea, which I would really enjoy.

My list:

Chelemby City

The other eleven kingdoms of Harbaal in small groups of one to three, depending on significance

Hurisea

Information on the tribal groups that surround these civilized areas

I'll buy Venarive (in any format you publish it in), but local material is much more interesting to me than regional overviews . . .

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Hi,
A big adventure to move the players to these new locations that KP is working on, and make use of them.
I need a exciting reason to go there, and I have no time to design. Look at the old Traveller publication by Digest Publications. They took the entire setting and produced a series of adventures that moved the PC's around, with local fine detail. The PC's were a mixed bunch touring the universe for their own reasons.

Emelrene - It's right next door to Melderyn, and what do we know about it?

- "Pardon me for living, I'm sure."
- NO-ONE GETS PARDONED FOR LIVING.

-- (Terry Pratchett, Mort)

A maritime campaign in western Venarive would be an excellent way to introduce Hârn players to all those exiting, new locations of Western Venarive!

Trade, piracy, politics, high seas, treacherous reefs, rough ports, wild coasts, mapping, cultures, magic, gods... And of course wooden ships, iron seamen, cunning captains, intriguing supercargoes, farseeing pilots, burly harbourmasters, and a sea monster.

Thinking of it, it's all clear before my eyes: a tour in the ports of southern Sea of Ivae starting from Thay, a plot between the Ivinians and Emelrene (CoE?) drawing the characters into the Gulf of Ederwyn, and finally into wild mountains to discover... well, to discover Venraive.

You might want to get Emelrene done first. It's the other interlocking thing between Hârn and Venarive, and I think more important than Chelemby.

-ile

I second Illka, you would not need to even fully develop countries yet...just the ports of call..

I would like to see as part of this a delineation of who the translators are in various areas? Priests, heralds, pilots, shek pvar, etc.

There was some idea's thrown around about a Sleeping Heroes campaign.
But from my point of view is would be impossible, to start designing material without knowing what is already designed, or in the works. Otherwise time could be spent designing, that can not be linked into the KP material.
I third the seconding, anything that takes me to the setting and lets me play. Nuggets of design without to full kingdom would work. Just some local flavour/culture, that other fans could even expand upon.

Many thanks for these....

Looks like Emelrene, and the Maritime Campaign, are both favourites.

By the way, if you *are* interested in developing for KP, just drop us a note on the Contact form. Allan - we can and do certainly provide those developing for us with a *lot* of detail about what has already been developed :)

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I thought the Venarian See Politics and Nations would be interesting, The Azeryan/Dalkesh/Karejian/Byrian and the Heperkerians would be interesting, though this is a lot of projects.

And I would hate to see Azeryan being a copy of Rome with it's pilum and Scutum using Legions.

Trierzeron Would be nice - We have has Info on The Ivininans, Shorkyne done pretty much in depth, Chelemby, etc.

Seems like as the strongest feudal kingdom it would be of interest to see Trierzon.

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I think the general gist is on target. The maritime campaign allows either sailors or travelers to visit many ports, that can serve as doorways to the interior of these lands. Each can be developed as time, resources and interest allow. The danger is in over committing, as we can only buy so much, and you can only develop so fast. I am sure we'd all like to see it all tomorrow, but we wouldn't be able to play it for a long time yet. Ledenheim was a nice start, fill in around it and the waters it adjoins.

But I am looking forward to Venarive.

...however Emelrene would be the first thought.
On Lythia.com they posted the "unofficial" Triezon piece. If you are looking at a map, that would be the logical hole fill.

But I am somewhat intrigued by the nautical theme. Perhaps it is overambitious, but all the early pieces have been created. Plus the mobility aspect cannot be over-rated, unlike traditional Harnic campaigns which tend to get mired down in a single kingdom.

Though Hepakaria does hold a special place in my heart...
(...this can be continued forever.)

The Ancient One
from the Mojave Desert
LV/NV USA

I would say, aftering perusing the new Harn map, I would like to see Ivinia, Shorkyne, Triezon, Northern Hepekeria, Azeryan, ... well you getthe idea, all done in the same format. I don't know how long it takes to make these maps, but if you could put one up every 2-3 months I feel with the quality they would be a sure sell, at least in PDF format. I am also looking forward to Venerive. Though as has been said here already anything that expands on the world in a meaningful way is appreciated.

Chelemby city would complete the island.
An adventure mainly set on the island (with maritime connections, why not) would help newcomers to initiate their campaign on Chelemby.
Like 100 bushels of rye was for Kaldor.

Jean-Nicolas Joubert

Regional overviews of Emelrene, Palithane, and Trierzon, in that order. Also like the maritime campaign idea. I think it makes sense to develop what will fill in the holes in the "Northern World", first with overviews, then with more detail. After (when) this is done, the Venarian Sea area would be nice, thus completing the continent (I realize this is a large & time-consuming project).

Thanks for all the comments so far - they are very helpful.

Chelemby City is our next product, so its good that some want to see it.

Its also clear that there is lots of support for a Maritime Campaign, which I believe would be a good complement to Venarive.

Emelrene also seems very popular, as do more maps of the kind similar to Harn Interactive.

Regards

Jeremy

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Fástred na Beréma,
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Rather than see new "world" publications, I'd rather see more detail in the HMG rule-sets.

Harn-master Military was due out quite awhile ago, if I remember correctly? Sometime around 1985, I think. ;-)

More background/rules for priests, etc. would be nice as well.

If I am "stuck" with picking World publications, then I can simply say that the sooner Venarive (I need to figure out how to easily insert the stress marks!) comes out, the better. :-)

Will the city of Chelemby include the clan guide that was mentioned awhile ago for publication? Even something like that fan piece that covered the main noble clans of Kaldor would be handy. With a few adventure nuggets thrown in.

A Thought,
Could the maritime campign involve the theft and pursuit of Royal or Religious regalia. It could even be tied into the Sleeping Heroes campaign idea.
So do the monarchies have such items and are they described somewhere? Like the crown, or scepter. But what other things would there be?

C&F of Chelemby will follow Chelemby City. It had to be delayed because it was so inter-connected with the City itself. Once the City is published, the Clans & Folk supplement can safely be finalised and published.

Jeremy

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Fástred na Beréma,
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KP seems to be well poised in opening up NW Lythia for some serious gaming. When Chelemby gets more flesh on its bones with Chelemby city and C&F it would be great to also look south of Chelemby. Duchy of Alagon seems like a logical next step.

From my perspective, I would love it if I could start a campaign in Chelemby where the characters can be mixed up in local, Harbaleese and Alagon's intrigues and then as new modules appear send them out to Ledenheim, Alagon, etc. So ideally the new modules should be concentric around Chelemby.

Personally I wouldn't find grand scale modules of far-away places very useful. On the other hand a port-of-call, pilgrimage or trade route type thingy which I could just drop into my campaign without huge work would be very interesting though.

Before I feel comfortable in starting such a campaign I do have to wait for Chelemby City and C&F though.

Looks like the Chelemby project is nearing completion. Will there be a bundle offered for all the Chelemby products when they are all done?

Adventures to compliment the world info would be very cool, then Trierzon, Emerlene would be a great next move, although it looks like you are trying to fill in the "gaps" in Shorkyne/Harbaal region (ie Ledenheim) instead.