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On Page Gulmora 2 of the Bestiary the optional Daylight rule states:

"The gulmorvrin are unable to manifest in full daylight; they are never encountered in full daylight."

This leads me to the following question: Are Morvrin ethereal? Or are they physical creatures that have been possessed by an ethereal spirit or "demonic" energy?

On Amorvrus 2 of the Bestiary, under Injury and Recovery it states:

"All Shock rolls generated on the injury table are ignored."

What about ethereal/aural shock from spells?

Any insight is extremely welcome.

ken's picture

All life forms have an ethereal component and this extends to the undead of Morgath as well. In fact it can be reasonably argued that all life forms are ethereal entities and that some simply have a corporeal reflection associated with them. Human beings and most creatures classified as "mortal" have a binding attachment to a corporeal body with death simply being a (permanent?) severance of the two. The attachment of a corporeal body to an ethereal entity is the miracle of conception/birth.

The Shadow of Bukrai, when it infests a lifeform's aura (many think it replaces it, this is not true) changes the relationship between ethereal and corporeal components. The Shadow refuses to allow the two to be separated for long, and where the body is destroyed, it simply forms a new one by converting ethereal "energy" into new corporeal "matter".

The optional rule suggests to me that gulmorvrin are unable to maintain a corporeal body in full daylight, and would suffer dissolution if exposed to it.

The shock roll rule for Amorvrin applies only to those rolls generated from the injury table. Shock generated from other means (ethereal fire for instance) are treated normally.

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Thank you for your thought-provoking response, Ken.

So the Shadow is actively maintaining the physical body as a bridge between the ethereal and the mundane "worlds"? Trauma to the physical body is transferred through the link to the Shadow. If enough trauma occurs, the Shadow must release its link to the physical world and the corporal body turns to dust. The Shadow re-forms the body using a template from the link.

So what changes when an Amorvrus becomes a Gulmora? (Not too sure about the singular form of each type. Forgive me if I am butchering the terms.) One component is obviously that the will of the Amorvrus is overcome by the Shadow. What else might explain the transformation?

ken's picture

more shadow is poured into the aura, obliterating the will portion of the entity's personality. This further damages the aura and a new set of "rules" govern how it exists.

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And once the aura is overcome and the will is obliterated you have a Gulmorvrus. Not a zombie, but rather a demonic servant of Morgath who does His bidding and is rarely encountered in the mortal world? If the aura and will no longer serve to link the ethereal Shadow to the mortal realm, how can the Shadow bridge the gap between the two realms? Or perhaps it has grown so powerful that it no longer needs the aura to do so?

ken's picture

it's only the Will that is obliterated. The Gulmorvrus' original aura is still there. It IS the Gulmorvrus really, but it has been corrupted by the Shadow.

In the case of an Amorvrus, the entity is mostly free to do what they want. They have their own aims, desires, and goals, and to a large extent, the ability to realize them. An Amorvrus is a free willed creature EXCEPT when it comes to directives by Klyss. A GM can interpret this as mental commands that just "pop" into an Amorvrus' head, or it could mean a direct, corporeal manifestation by the demi-god. Either way, if Klyss says do it, the Amrovrus must obey.

A Gulmorvrus is what an Amorvrus turns into after its last half-life is over. A greater infusion of the Shadow changes how the undead relates to the corporeal world and it robs the creature of all of its free will. It still has aims, desires, and goals. It has it's memories and self awareness. It simply doesn't have the will power to act on any of this. It might want to run into town and visit an old friend, but without an external will directing it, it will just stand there and do nothing.

They aren't mindless though. A gulmorvrus can be given direction and left to it's own devices to accomplish the task, but everything it does must, in it's own mind, be an advancement towards that task. It has no ability to act on it's own desires.

That make sense?

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That does make sense.

My group is doing this kind of painful dance attempting to understand the difference between the HMC and HMG rules for undead. One significant difference seems to be the nature of Gulmorvrin. In HMG the Guls are more powerful than the Amorvrin. In HMC the Guls become more zombie-like.

In some ways, I like elements from both rule systems. Thank you for taking the time to share your perspective. The undead rules seem to have confused quite a few people. I think nailing down a basic understanding of how the Shadow functions will make the rules clearer.

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"it's only the Will that is obliterated. The Gulmorvrus' original aura is still there. It IS the Gulmorvrus really, but it has been corrupted by the Shadow."

What about the mortal's aura? If the Shadow obliterates the will of the mortal, and infects the aura of the mortal, what happens to the aura of the mortal upon becoming Gulmorvrus? It would seem that the aura is used by the Shadow to bridge the gap between the ethereal and the corporal.
I would think that if the aura of the mortal was obliterated entirely, the Shadow could not bridge between the two ethereal and mortal worlds. If the aura is unchanged by the transformation from Amorvrin to Gulmorvrus why does the Shadow become stronger?